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Sunday, April 12, 2020

They Just Won't Say It

John 6:63, “It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”

My hero of the Christian faith is Pastor Jack Hyles (1926-2001). I love Brother Hyles for many reasons, but mostly because he preached the truth. In his early ministry, Dr. Hyles admits that college professors had him turned around backwards, confused on Bible inspiration; but he came to his senses years later, as you can read for yourself:
Dr. Hyles On The Importance Of Bible Infallibility
John 12:47-48, “And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.”
John 14:23, “Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.”
Folks, I'm going to go to seed [to become worn] before I die on defending this Book—I'm going to go to seed on it! I'm a little tired—by the way, every preacher in America, before he met a theologian, believed exactly what I'm preaching tonight! Theologians messed us all up—they messed me up for a while, I'll be honest with you—messed us all up! When I went off to college, I thought I had the words of God in this Book right here. When I was in college for awhile I found out I didn't. Not only that, I found out nobody did! Not only that, I found out you couldn't have them! Not only that, I found out there was no such thing as any book in all the world that had the words of God in 'em! 
But my Bible said that we're supposed to keep His “WORDS”; not His truths, not just His doctrine, but His “WORDS”! ... 
Mark 8:38,“Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.” 
Folks, here's what's happening in America. The old-time preachers that built this country believed that this Book right here had the words of God in it! Your grandpa and grandma, that built this country, shed their tears on this Book, thinking they had the very words of God in their hands. And fundamentalists ALL believed what I'm preaching tonight, until we got our own Bible colleges, and seminaries, and sent our professors off to train at the feet of Karl Barth, and Reinhold Neuber, Emil Brunner, and others, who said that the Bible does not have the “words” of God, it is the Word of God, and that all the Bible is not inspired word-for-word. So we did not want to be considered “unintellectual” by the intellectual community; we're not willing to be called “nuts” and “fools”—just chalk me up as a nut! Chalk me up as a fool! Yea! Chalk me up as an uneducated illiterate if you want to, but I guarantee Ya—I'd rather study my A-B-C's in Heaven, then Greek and Hebrew in Hell! 
Whosoever shall be ashamed of “ME AND MY WORDS”; it didn't say His “WORD,” it says His “WORDS”! —Pastor Jack Hyles, a beautiful quote from the sermon, “There Are Too Many Smiths In The Land.”
Brother Hyles realized (as I fully do), that the Devil has crept into our fundamental Baptist Bible colleges and churches today, pushing the lie that we don't have an inspired Holy Bible...
“The biggest split that has ever come will come in the next ten years, if not sooner, over the King James Bible - and it couldn't come soon enough for me. I'm tired of colleges and universities advertising that they 'use' the King James Bible - tell the whole story! Tell everyone that you do not believe that it is inspired word for word.” [emphasis added] —Pastor Jack Hyles, from the Wednesday night Bible study titled, “Revelation to Illumination” (1998)
l could take you to Hyles-Anderson College's lame website. I could take you to Bob Jones University's lame website. I could take you to Crown Bible College's lame website. I could take you to Pensacola Christian College's lame website. I could take you to Moody Bible Institute's lame website. I could take you to Faith Baptist Bible College And Theological Seminary's lame website. I could take you to over 97% of Bible college websites across America. I could take you to the Trinity Baptist Church in Arlington, Texas (which I randomly came across this week, not picking on them for any particular reason). I could take you to thousands of fundamental Baptist church websites. I could take you dear reader to all of these horrible institutions and churches and show you their lame Statement Of Faith, where they speak all manner of good about the King James Bible, but THEY JUST WON'T SAY IT IS INSPIRED!

Don't take my word for it, let's go check. Case in point is: The Crown College in Powell, Tennessee (where Dr. Clarence Sexton is in charge)...
The Scriptures 
We believe the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments to be the Bible, “as it is in truth, the Word of God…” (I Thessalonians 2:13). We believe in verbal, plenary inspiration in the original writings, and God’s preservation of His pure words to every generation (II Timothy 3:16, Psalms 12:6-8). We believe that the Scriptures are inerrant, infallible, and God-breathed.The Masoretic Text of the Old Testament and the Received Text of the New Testament (Textus Receptus) are those texts of the original languages we use; the Authorized King James Version of the Bible is the English version we use in the English-speaking world. The Bible is our sole and final authority for faith and practice. [emphasis added]—SOURCE
They just won't say it! THEY JUST WON'T SAY THAT THE KING JAMES BIBLE IS INSPIRED!!! Pastor Clarence Sexton heads up their college ministry. He sadly doesn't believe that the King James Bible is inspired! I wouldn't send my dog to The Crown College (and I don't even have a dog). I won't waste time taking you to HAC, BJU, MBI, H.I.V. and other horrible colleges today that also DENY THE INSPIRATION OF THE KING JAMES BIBLE!!! What is wrong with everyone nowadays? I'll tell you, we've let a bunch of intellectuals convince us that we no longer have the inspired Words of God today! The Crown College even shamefully admits that they only believe in “inspiration in the original writings.” 

Folks, this is insane! The Crown College says that only the original autographs of the Scripture were inspired (which don't exist today). Yet, they claim that God has preserved those “pure words” to every generation. They hypocritically claim, “We believe that the Scriptures are inerrant, infallible, and God-breathed.” Yet, they don't believe the King James Bible is inspired today! THEY JUST WON'T SAY IT!!! 

Here is an excellent defence of King James Bible inspiration by Dr. James Sightler (1937-2019)...

INSPIRATION—TEMPORAL OR ETERNAL

I believe that inspiration is not a process but an entity, an eternal entity, a fact or deed. If the KJV translators had believed it was a process they would have translated II Timothy 3:16 - “pasa graphe theopneustos” as “All scripture is God breathed.” In that sentence God breathed is an adjective, or present participle used as adjective, which describes the noun scripture. A verbal adjective would imply a becoming, but the Word did not become. He is. But the translators, and their English predecessors, were led to avoid that rendering, and I believe they knew in their hearts that inspiration was an eternal entity, a noun. Even though the phrase “by inspiration of God” describes scripture it is at least equally valid to look at it as a noun which is the object of the sentence. Here Paul could not have been speaking to Timothy of any original manuscripts. Those of the Old Testament were gone. And since II Timothy was probably Paul’s last epistle much of the New Testament already had been written. Graphe in this verse means scripture of both testaments. The Holy Ghost said that Timothy had known the scriptures, and so he had them before him from childhood. 
The word theopneustos was given by the Holy Ghost to Paul. It is unique. It appears only once in the New Testament and is only infrequently seen in earlier pagan Greek writing. Some defenders of the KJV believe that theopneustos is a “verbal adjective,” essentially a past participle. That belief is more compatible with the concept of inspiration as a process which occurred in time, that is, a becoming. They say that “pasa graphe theopneustos” means all scripture is God breathed. If theopneustos is a verbal adjective the translation should be “God breathed” and not “given by inspiration of God.” [emphasis added]
SOURCE: Inspiration: Temporary Or Eternal
Apostasy has overrun our Bible colleges and churches! The denial of the inspiration of the King James Bible opens a Pandora's Box of problems. According to the American Bible Society, there are approximately 900 English Bible versions (in part or whole). Of all those Bible versions, The Crown College would have us to believe that God has only chosen one of them as His perfectly preserved Word, but IT IS NOT INSPIRED? Bob Jones University insanely believes they are all God's Word, but NONE OF THEM ARE INSPIRED. The state of our fundamental Bible colleges today is alarming!!! They are arrogant and you cannot reason with them. They're all holding hands, standing together, united in rebellion against the inspiration of the King James Bible!!! 

The King James Bible Is God's Inspired Word

I do believe that ONE BOOK STANDS ALONE—the inspired KING JAMES BIBLE! As I mentioned, it's not just The Crown College, it's all of the Bible colleges today, with few exceptions. It's nearly all of the churches today, with few exceptions. Bless God, I believe that we have an inspired King James Bible today. Inspired means those words are empowered by the Holy Spirit of God. Hebrews 4:12, “For the word of God is quick [alive], and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” 

John 6:63, “It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.” If the King James Bible is not inspired, then it is not God's Word. When a mortal man writes a book, it is inspired by a man; but God's Word is inspired by God, meaning that His Spirit emanates through His Words. As Dr. James Sightler well explained in the earlier quote I shared with you, inspiration refers to an eternal entity and not a process. 

Why won't they say it? Why won't they say that the King James Bible is inspired? It is because a wicked group of former Christian fundamentalists went astray, denying the inspiration of the King James Bible, and now due to peer pressure, men are too cowardly to go against the herd mentality. Who were these wicked men? One was Dr. Stewart Custer (1931-2017), who indoctrinated Bob Jones University students for 47 years that they didn't have an inspired Bible today. Shame on Dr. Custer! Another is Dr. Jack Schaap, former pastor of the First Baptist Church of Hammond, Indiana. Another inspiration-denier is Evangelist Sam Gipp. Ecclesiastes 9:18, “Wisdom is better than weapons of war: but one sinner destroyeth much good.” 

No preacher denies the inspiration of the King James Bible, unless he has been messed-up in some deadbeat religious seminary, or he has been hobnobbing with liberals!!! What good is inspiration without preservation, and what good is preservation without inspiration? You need BOTH!!! God's Words have never lost their inspiration, except in the modern corrupt Bible revisions!!! The King James Bible is inspired. They just won't say it! Well I will—THE KING JAMES BIBLE IS 100% THE VERBALLY INSPIRED WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD!!!!!!! 
“You show me a person to whom Heaven becomes real, and this Book becomes real, and God becomes real, and Hell becomes real, and salvation becomes real, and I'll show you a person that will so much the more serve God as he sees the day approaching!” —Pastor Jack Hyles, “So Much The More As Ye See The Day Approaching”

Wednesday, September 30, 2020

Logic Must Prove The King James Bible

Matthew 24:35, “Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.”

The following is a sermon preached in the First Baptist Church of Hammond, Indiana, 
by Pastor Jack Hyles (1926-2001) in the Sunday evening service on April 8, 1984.

I'm not attacking the Catholic church tonight. I'm not a Catholic. Maybe you noticed the sign out in front of our church that says, "First Baptist." I never think I'm being unkind if I have the same thing on the inside that we have on the outside. I want you to listen carefully. I'm going to state some facts about the Catholic church. They are facts; they are not railing accusations. They are facts, and any Catholic who is honest will tell you that what I'm going to say is true about the Catholic church. It is not a matter of my making false accusations; it's a matter of record.

I am also going to say some things about the Charismatics tonight. I'm more Catholic than I am Charismatic. I've got more respect for the Pope than I do the P.T.L. Club, and I mean that. However, my respect for the Pope is not really soaring! Don't get mad now. I want to help you. I'm simply saying that I'm going to give you some facts. I'm going to give some facts about the Charismatics, and if a Charismatic is honest, he will agree with the facts I'm going to give. There will be no accusations, no gossip and no slander; I will just give facts that any Charismatic would give.

Also, I'm going to say some things tonight about Protestantism. In fact, I may not miss anybody tonight. Everything I say will be factual. It will be the kind of thing with which even the people about whom I speak will agree. So I want you to listen. With the battle raging as it is about the King James Bible, I think that any pastor ought to alert his people.

When I was a boy, from the time I remember—I remember back when I was two and three years of age—until I went into the paratroopers in World War II when I was 18, my mother would read to me for 30 minutes every night from the Bible. Then she would hold it up and say, "This is the Word of God!" She did not say, The manuscripts from which we got this are the Word of God." My mom didn't even know what a manuscript was. She just knew she had a Book that was the Word of God. That's all she knew. So, she said, "This is the Word of God." I would look at it, and I would have to say three times, "Mama, the Bible is the Word of God. The Bible is the Word of God. The Bible is the Word of God."

I have Mama's Bible—the same one she read—in my office. I've had it there for years. I don't know how old it is, but I suspect it is 55 or 60 years old. It is the same Bible she used to hold up. I was thumbing through it the other day. On the inside, it says on the title page, "King James Bible." That's what it says. You know it worked. It's amazing how well Mama did before she found out that it wasn't the Word of God.

I've been going to Baptist churches for 51 years. Every pastor I've ever had preached from the King James Bible. He always said to the crowd, "Open your Bibles and let's hear what the Lord says." These pastors were not unfortunate enough to have sat at the feet of those with lower education-- which calls itself "higher education."

It is amazing how well this nation did when we didn't know how ignorant we were. (Are you listening?) This is my fifth pastorate. I've seen miracles in my pastorates. I've preached over 41,000 times, and I've never yet preached a sermon that wasn't preached from the King James Bible. I really don't know what I've missed. To be quite frank with you, I've seen fellows who preach from other Bibles, and I somehow get the idea THEY are missing something. Dr. Evans, I've never seen a fellow really whoop it up about any other Bible. I've never heard a fellow say, "Blessed be God, let's look in the Book. Let's look in the Douay Version."

Did you ever go to mass and have the priest get up and say, Hallelujah for the Word of God!" Don't get mad at me! I'm telling the truth. If you don't believe it, go next Sunday and see. He will usually use that prayer book and not a Bible.

Follow me. I've taught you about the Textus Receptus, Westcott and Hort, those manuscripts from which came the Douay Version that the Catholics use and the American Standard Version, which is highly overrated. The Westcott and Hort manuscripts came from the Vatican manuscripts that were hidden in the Vatican for years-- from whence came the Catholic Bible.

The Textus Receptus manuscripts are those from which we have gotten the King James, and they have been the evangelistic manuscripts, if you please. I won't go into that. I'm a Textus Receptus man. I haven't got a bit of patience with Westcott and Hort. Not a bit! In fact, I really have a hard time not being bitter against my Greek professors in college who taught me from Westcott and Hort Greek manuscripts. It upsets me greatly.

This is the message. The question at hand is this: Where is the final authority for church building and for Christian living? There are four different final authorities in American Christendom. I'm not talking about Mormonism and those who have other books. I'm talking about Christendom. There are four basic final authorities.

1. SOME VIEW THE CHURCH AS THE FINAL AUTHORITY. 
This is fact. Any honest Catholic priest will tell you that the Catholic position on the final authority is that the church has final authority. If you want to go a little farther than that, if the pope speaks ex cathedra, he is the final authority. Ask any Catholic or read any Catholic doctrine, and both will tell you that. I'm not trying to be critical. I'm telling you the truth. If a Catholic priest were standing here, he'd tell you the same thing.

Our Catholic friends believe that the church is the final authority. If the pope speaks ex cathedra, that's God speaking. I'm not being critical; I'm being factual. There is a second final authority.

2. SOME VIEW EXPERIENCE AS THE FINAL AUTHORITY. 
In other words, "It happened to me, so it's true. I was there when it happened, and I ought to know. I had an experience. I saw Jesus. I saw a vision. I have a word of knowledge." This is the charismatic position. Ask them. They will say, "I have a message from God, so this is God talking. God gave me a message." (The foolish thing about that is, if that is true, you had better start writing more Bible.)

When this happens, people believe the final authority comes from experience. God has supposedly given someone a message. Someone talks in tongues, and somebody else interprets what God said. However, the truth is, all that God has ever said to man is right here in this Book. This is it. This is God's complete revelation to man!

By the way, that is the basis of the whole thing: What is the final authority? There has to be some place, ladies and gentlemen, where we can say, "This is it, and what this says is the final word." So, our Catholic friends say the church is the final authority. Our charismatic friends go beyond the Bible and say human experience is the final authority.

3. SOME VIEW HUMAN REASONING AS THE FINAL AUTHORITY. 
That's what liberal people say. "Every man is searching for the truth, and every man gets a portion of it; so, nobody is wrong, and nobody is right. We are all searching, so it doesn't seem to me that God would make a Hell; therefore, there is no Hell. It doesn't make sense to me that God would let anybody go to Hell, so God wouldn't let anybody go to Hell. It doesn't make sense to me that God would regenerate anybody, so there is no such thing as regeneration." That's what most of our Protestant friends believe, and all the humanist crowd believes it. That's what the liberal believes. That's what 95% of all the people in the seminaries in America believe. That's what 95% of all the faculty and students in religious colleges in America believe—the final authority is the human mind or human reasoning.

The average Protestant church in Hammond believes that. "I don't see how there could be a place with golden streets. If I don't see how there could be, there isn't one." That is idolatry in its most pagan form. "My mind is my God. What I can't conceive of, I won't believe. What I can't understand, I won't accept. So, I'll trim the Bible down to fit what I can believe. I just can't believe there is a God of wrath, so there is no God of wrath."

All right, we have the first three answers to the question, What is the final authority?" The church is, according to our Catholic friends. Human experience is, according to our charismatic friends. Human reasoning is, according to our liberal and Protestant friends.

4. SOME VIEW THE BIBLE AS THE FINAL AUTHORITY. 
Every church in America in Christendom who had services this morning had a preacher who stood up and preached what he believed. He either preached that he believed that the final authority is the church, or that the final authority is human experience, or that the final authority is human reasoning, or that the final authority is the Bible.

The only authority that we as independent Baptists believe is the Bible. There was a day when I could say Baptists, but the truth is, most of the Southern Baptist colleges and seminaries are staffed by professors who don't believe that the Bible is the final authority. I may as well say it all. There's not a single Southern Baptist college or seminary to which I'd recommend anybody to go any more. None! I went to a Southern Baptist college and seminary. Thirty-five years ago, I heard a professor in my seminary say that he didn't believe the resurrection. He said that the resurrection was a bunch of blindfolded spirits in a vacuum. He said it. I was there. Think what they are saying now!

Consequently, independent Baptists believe that the only final authority for practice and doctrine of the Christian and the church is the Bible. I cannot speak ex cathedra. I cannot speak and say, "This is truth." All I can say is, "The Bible is truth." You see, I can't say, "I'm going to speak now, and this is God speaking through me." I don't much like people to pray, Dear God, put the words in the mouth of our preacher." I think you can say, "Lead our preacher"; but if God puts the words in my mouth, we'd have more Bible.

See, I have no power in this church but the power of influence. Sometimes I wish I had more. Sometimes I wish I had power to make you ladies dress like I think you ought to dress. Sometimes I wish I had the power to make you adults have rules about your teenagers that I think you ought to have, but all I can do is influence you. I have no power. Officially, I have one vote in this church; that's all. I have no vote at deacon's meeting and one vote as a member of this church. The only power I have is my vote and the power of influence.

It was a good day for me when I decided that I was going to make my Final Authority the Word of God. I was taught in Southern Baptist schools to believe that the Southern Baptist program was it. One day I decided to just read my Bible and reorganize my church. I did. I decided to get the book of Acts and read it word for word to see what the New Testament church was all about. I cast aside all the tradition I had been taught, all the jargon I had been taught, all the catechisms to which I had been taught to swear allegiance, and I decided I was going to try to find out what kind of church the New Testament church really was.

Dr. Curtis Hutson gave the best compliment to First Baptist Church of Hammond that has ever been given in the SWORD OF THE LORD. He said that he was here for Pastors' School. He told how many conversions and baptisms we had the Sunday before. Then he said, "If God were writing the book of Acts today, He would write about the First Baptist Church of Hammond." That's the ultimate compliment.

You see, I decided that I was going to get my Bible down and decide what I thought the New Testament church was Scripturally; then, that's what I was going to have in my church. I believe with all of my soul that the First Baptist Church of Hammond is as near as is humanly possible to being what the church in Jerusalem was 2,000 years ago. Where did I get that? I got it from the Bible. Do you know why we are scattered abroad winning souls all over this area? It's because the church in Jerusalem was "scattered abroad," and they "went every where preaching the word." (Acts 8:4) Do you know why we go house to house, knocking on doors? We do it because it says in Acts 5:42, "And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ." We do it because that's what they did in the Bible.

Somebody says, "Well, we have different kinds of churches. You have a soul-winning church, and we have a deeper-life church." In the first place, it's a lie. There's no life as deep as a soul-winning life. However, they say, "We just have different kinds of churches." No, we don't. WE have a church, and you don't! Brother, the Bible is our charter to exist. If the Bible is not your final authority in practice and doctrine, then you are not a church. You might have the word "church" on the outside, but you are not a church.

Since the Word of God is our Authority—hear me carefully—we simply must have it. That's a profound statement. We've got to have it! I mean, shall we have an authority we can't find? Would God tell us His Word is the Final Authority and leave us without His Word? We must have a copy or we may as well join our Catholic friends and let the church be the basis for truth. If we have no Word of God, and if the Bible is not the Word of God, then we have only three other alternatives. We've got to say the final authority will be the church, or human experience, or human reasoning.

I'm saying, if we have no Bible that is the Word of God, then we have no way to go to the Book for the final authority. If one word in this Bible is not true, we don't know which one it is; so, once again, the mind of man or experience or the church is going to have to decide which one is true and which one is not true. If we are going to believe that the Word of God is the final authority, we've got to have a copy of it.

Let me ask you a question. Would God call a man to preach His Word and not give it to him? God calls a man and says, "I'm calling you. Spend you life preaching the Gospel. Preach the Word!" So, wouldn't He give him a copy of His Word?

I've said this so often, and I'll say it again and again. I would step down from behind this pulpit tonight and never walk in it again to preach if I didn't have the Word of God in my hand. I would not waste your time nor take your money unless I could say to you, "You have the Word of God. I have it, and it is preached here." I'm an honest man. This is what I've said before, and I'll say it again. If I did not believe that the Book I hold in my hand tonight was God's Word, I'd find out where it was. I'd go there and get a copy, print some copies for you and give you a copy. I mean, brother, if we don't have the Word of God in our hands, we have no place to go except to the human mind, human experience or the collective human mind which is the church. God would not reach down and give a divine call to a man and say, "I call you to preach My Word, but there is no copy of it any more."

I don't like a statement of faith that says, "We believe the Bible is the Word of God in the original manuscripts." In the first place, there are no original manuscripts anywhere in the world tonight. None! If the Word of God was only the original manuscripts, there is no Word of God available for mankind today. If I did not believe the Bible I hold in my hand was the Word of God, and I believed there were some manuscripts, I'd get on an airplane, fly to where they were, break in the building if I had to, get the original manuscripts, make copies of them and give you a copy. I'm not going to stand here as an imposter preaching a Book that is not the Word of God and giving you instructions on how to live from a Book that is not the Word of God! I'm not going to do it! I'm just not going to do it!.

Would God tell His people to live by the Word and not give it to them? Let me say this. Of all the nations on the face of this earth, America is the center of world evangelization. America is the only hope for the world to have the Gospel. Do you think that God would not give His Word to America? The countries of this world look to America for missionaries. They look to America for preachers. Every great movement of God in the world today was founded by a ministry or movement that was propelled by American evangelization. The mission movement was founded basically, by Hudson Taylor. Now, wait a minute. Of all the nations on the face of this earth, it just seems to me that God would give the key nation the Word of God.

Check the history of Christianity in America, and see how well we've done without all these extra Bibles. Check the history of the church in America from 1950 back, before every little preacher had the misfortune to sit at the feet of a college theologian. Do you know what? We won't have people who are just theologians teaching Bible at Hyles-Anderson College. Every teacher of Bible at Hyles-Anderson College is a preacher. We won't hire a theologian. No way! You say, "Are you opposed to theologians?" No, I'm just leery and wary of them. I am wary of those who dare to sit in judgment on the Bible. Brother, it seems to me if there is any place in the world where you ought to have your faith in the Bible stabilized, it's a Christian college or Christian seminary. However, the truth is, that's where you get your faith shaken.

That's one reason why some things bother me. It bothers me when people say, "We believe that the Bible, in the original manuscripts, is the Word of God." If that's true, we have no Bible. Did you hear what I said? We have no Bible. One day they did, but WE don't.

Dr. Ed Hindson of Liberty Baptist College said concerning I John 5:7, "Thus, according to John's account here, 'there are three that bear record in heaven.' The rest of verse 7 and the first nine words of verse 8 are not in the original and are not to be considered as part of the Word of God." I'd like to ask Mr. Hindson a question: "When did you see the original?" How does he know they are not in the original? Look at me now. How does he know? The only way an honest man can say they are not in the original manuscripts is to have seen them, and they are not available. Now, he could say they are not in some of the manuscripts that are considered the most ancient. I personally think he was saying that they are not in the Westcott and Hort. I can't prove that.

Before I get too rough on him, look at your Scofield Bible in I John 5:7, the verse Dr. Hindson quoted. Folks, I have no axes to grind. I have nobody's feelings to hurt. I've just got to have the Word of God; that's all. I've got to have it! The Bible says the Word of God is what we are supposed to preach. The Bible says, "Preach the Word."

Now, look at your Scofield Bible—I John 5:7, "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." Now look at that little "o" there in front of verse 7. Look in the center reference, and find the "o". Mr. Scofield says, "It is generally agreed that v. 7 has no real authority, and has been inserted."

I'd like to ask Mr. Scofield when he saw the original. He never saw it. Somebody who thought he was intellectual told that to somebody who thought he was intellectual who told somebody who thought he was intellectual. Listen, we don't want the intellectual community to think of us as being nincompoops, but I'd rather have a nincompoop with a revelation from God than to have an intellectual without a revelation from God.

We've got to have a final authority! If this Book is not true, then the church or human reasoning or human experience is the final authority. Listen! There are only two-- God and man. If God is not the final authority, man is the final authority. If we have no final authority in a book, then man has got to discern what God says; if man discerns what God says, then man becomes the final authority instead of God. So, Mr. Scofield had problems the day he came to this verse. How does he know? Pray tell me, what in the world he could have ever seen that would make him say that? He didn't see anything. He sat in somebody's Bible class and some Dr. Mess-'em-Up or Dr. McFuddle or Dr. Broad Stomach stood up and said, "Well, in the original manuscript..." which sounds scholarly; but nobody in our generation has seen them. Dr. So-and-So hasn't seen them, the professor in the seminary hasn't seen them and the college Bible professor hasn't seen them. Either what I hold in my hand is the Word of God, or we don't have any Word of God. I don't believe God would leave us without His Word. I don't believe that. I JUST DON'T BELIEVE IT!

We need a Bible that we can understand and a Bible that is God's Word. It looks like anybody would agree that if God gives us the command to preach the Word, He would give us the Word to preach. That's logical. If God wants to say to a nation, "You are the custodian of world evangelization for a generation or two or three or four," it looks like God would give that nation the Word of God.

What is it? I would say it ought to be the one that has worked. Which one has worked? The one I hold in my hand right now. I has worked! It will work!

I'd like to say the same to our friends in the charismatic movement. You say, "Why do you stress it?" I stress it because the charismatic crowd is trying to teach our crowd every day that they've got something we don't have. Tonight, before I walked into this pulpit, one of our fine ladies came and told me of one of our men who has been swept aside. One of our good faithful men has been swept aside by the charismatic crowd. As pastor of this church, it is my job to warn you of wolves who are dressed like sheep.

If we don't have a Bible that's the Word of God, we've got to go to human reasoning. If God says to a church, "Build your church on My Word," God's got to give us His Word. Listen, God wouldn't be God is He told us to do something we couldn't do. Everything that God has ever commanded us to do, He has given us the wherewithal to obey that commandment. God has never commanded man to do anything that was unreasonable or impossible for man to do. When God calls a man to preach and says, "Preach the Word," God would have to give him a Word to preach. If God says to a church, "Build your church on My Word," to be God, He's got to give that church the Word of God.

Our Methodists seminaries say, "It's not verbally inspired." There was a day when John Wesley started that movement. He said the Bible was inspired, and they had the fire back in those days!

The Presbyterian seminaries say, "The Bible is not the Word of God," but John Calvin believed it, and they had the fire! John Knox and others believed it!

I'm saying that we've either got to admit this is the Word of God or we have to flee to the church, or to human reasoning or human experience as being the final authority. If there is no Word of God today, we have no other recourse. If God has not given us His Word, we have to decide what is God's Word. That's human reasoning.

By the way, basing a doctrine on human experience is idolatry. Basing a doctrine on the church being the final authority is idolatry. The church is the idol. Letting the pope speak ex cathedra and saying that it is God Who is speaking is idolatry. You're making him as God.

Human reasoning says that what we can reason, we'll believe. That's idolatry. So the truth is, you've got one choice of two. Either this Bible is the Word of God or we have no other place to turn but to idolatry. Did you hear me? Either this is the Word of God, or there is no place to turn but idolatry. Our three choices are human reasoning, human experience or the church, and they are each a form of idolatry. They are all three the same because making the church the final authority is done so by human reasoning. That means Catholicism is humanism, and the charismatic movement is humanism. It is man saying, "I was there. I felt it. God spoke, and here's what He said." That's human reasoning. It's humanism. So either this is the Word of God, or there is nothing left but humanism.

I'll tell you this. To whatever degree this Book is not believed, that society has the exact proportionate belief in humanism because there are only two choices available: God and man. If God hasn't told us what to do, man has got to tell us what to do. When a country does not believe this Book, it is totally humanistic. When a country leans away from this Book, it leans toward humanism. When a country is divided about this Book, it is divided about humanism.

I just don't believe that God would say, "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature," (Mark 16:15) and not give us His Word to take with us. I just don't believe that God would say, "Train up a child in the way he should go," (Proverbs 22:6) and write the words of God "upon the door posts of thine house," (Deuteronomy 11:20) and "teach them your children," (Deuteronomy 11:19) unless there were a Word of God.

I don't think God would say, "Start a Bible college. Send out young men to proclaim the truth," unless God had given us the truth. I just don't believe that God would send young men to the mission fields without the Word of God. I don't think God would send Rick Martin halfway around the world to proclaim His Word without giving him a copy of it. I don't think God would send young men out from this church to build soul-winning churches without giving them His Word.

With all of my soul, I believe that the final authority for faith and practice for a church and for a life is the Word of God. I do not believe that I'm the final authority; nor the bishops or the cardinals-- nor are the Cubs or the White Sox!

Not long ago, then there was no pope, a fellow said, "I think Ernie Banks ought to be the next pope." "Why?" "Well, the Cardinals have had it long enough. It's time the Cubs got to have a pope!"

I'm not the final authority. "El papa" is not the final authority. He can wave his magic wand all he wants to. He can rustle his skirts all over the country. I'm simply saying, the Bible is the final authority, not man. I don't care what he is called, it is not man!

You say, "You're criticizing the pope." Whatever I've said about pope, I've said about me. FIRST I said, I'M NOT the final authority. THEN I said, "HE'S NOT the final authority." So our people have as much right to get mad as you Catholics do. Mr. Oral Roberts is not the final authority. The Bible is the final authority. I just don't believe God would leave us down here without a copy of His Word.

How can we know which is the real Bible? Well, you can scratch off the Revised Standard Version because the liberals put that one together. You can scratch off any Bible that came from Wescott and Hort because that comes from the Vatican manuscripts. I'd suggest you find the one that has worked.

Find the one that widows have read; find the one over which they've wept and prayed for their children. Find the one that dear mothers in the history of our country have read, loved and taught. Find the one for which faithful evangelists have given their lives and for which missionaries have circled the globe. Find the one that has caused people to leave home, family and friends to carry its message. Find it! Find the one Dwight Moody used. Find out which one Billy Sunday used. Find the one the great soul-winning churches in America use.

Find the one tested by time. Find the one that Adolph Hitler said he would destroy, but couldn't! Find the one about which Thomas Paine spoke when he said, "Within one generation, the Bible will not be printed anymore." However, as soon as he died, the same printing press on which he printed that garbage was used to print more Bibles. Find the one they can't destroy. Find the one that has stood the test of time. Find the one that liberals have tried to destroy, Hitlers have tried to burn, Mussolinis have tried to outlaw and Khrushchevs and Stalins have tried to burn! Find it! The Bible says, "My words shall not pass away." (Matthew 24:35) Find the one that has stood the test of time!

Don't find one that has a hippie on the outside of it and bunch of hippie jargon on the inside of it. Find the one that has stood the test of time! You say, "I don't understand those thees' and 'thous.'" "Thee" means "you." "Thou" means "you." "I" means "me." "We" means "us." You know it, and you know you know it! Not only that, but the Holy Spirit of God lives inside of you, and He's the author of this Book. If you can't understand a part of it, ask Him to teach you, and He will do it. He wrote it! We've got to have a Bible! We have got to have a Bible!

You say, "Boy, that's right. I'll tell you what, I believe it from cover to cover." Try OPENING the covers. "Boy, I believe every word of it." QUOTE a few of them! If we had Scripture quoting tonight, we've got Sunday school teachers here who know only, "Jesus wept," and if somebody said that verse before your turn came, you'd say, "He got mine." Read it! Memorize it! Study it! Love it! Teach it! Preach it! Live in it! It's the Word of God! You can depend on it.

Every jot and every tittle shall come to pass. Not one comma and not one punctuation mark shall pass away. Matthew 5:18, "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Matthew 24:35, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." I checked those words, "pass away," a little bit; a synonym for that phrase would be, "My word will always be alive." There never will be a day when somebody says, "Beloved, we are gathered here in the presence of 'Gawd' and these witnesses to remember the word of 'Gawd' that died." We never will! It will always be there. It always will.

I can't believe that God would give us a great commission and tell us to teach it, preach it and spread it, and not give us the truth to teach and preach and spread.
It was good for our fathers;
It was good for our fathers;
It was good for our fathers;
And it's good enough for me;

It was good for my mama;
It was good for my mama;
It was good for my mama;
And it's good enough for me.

Let us pray.

Psalms 12:6-7, “The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.”

Saturday, January 10, 2026

From The NASV to The KJB Testimony Of Pastor Frank Logsdon

This speech, and Frank Logsdon's defection in the fear of God, from the New American Standard Bible (NASB) to the King James Bible (KJV), is a landmark event in the ongoing King James Version (KJV) controversy. But there is no controversy if you believe the Holy Bible.

FROM THE NASV TO THE KJV TESTIMONY OF A COMMITTEE MEMBER FOR THE NEW AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION...

By Pastor S. Frank Logsdon

INTRODUCTION

Franklin S. Logsdon (1907-1987) was a respected evangelical pastor and popular Bible conference speaker. He pastored Moody Memorial Church in Chicago (from 1950 to 1952). Prior to that he pastored Central Baptist Church in London, Ontario (from 1942-50). He also pastored churches in Holland, Michigan (Immanuel Baptist from 1952-57), and Erie, Pennsylvania. He taught at London Bible Institute in Ontario, Canada. He preached at Bible conferences (such as Moody Founder's Week) with well-known evangelists and pastors such as Billy Graham and Paul Smith of People's Church in Toronto.

Logsdon authored a number of popular books and commentaries published by Zondervan Publishing House. A notice on the cover of his book Lest Ye Faint states, "One of the most popular and best loved pastors is the author of this book.

Mr. Logsdon is an uncompromising defender of the faith once delivered to the saints, and each Sunday in Moody Memorial Church in Chicago, thousands of people gather to have their souls refreshed from the divine springs of Christian truth."

In the 1950s Logsdon was invited by his businessman friend Franklin Dewey Lockman to prepare a feasibility study which led to the production of the New American Standard Version (NASV). He also helped interview some of the men who served as translators for this version. He wrote the Foreword which appears in the NASV.

As we see in the following testimony, in the later years of his life Logsdon publicly renounced his association with the modern versions and stood unhesitatingly for the King James Bible. In a letter dated June 9, 1977, Logsdon wrote to Cecil Carter of Prince George, British Columbia, "When questions began to reach me [pertaining to the NASV], at first I was quite offended. 

However, in attempting to answer, I began to sense that something was not right about the NASV. Upon investigation, I wrote my very dear friend, Mr. Lockman, explaining that I was forced to renounce all attachment to the NASV. ...I can aver that the project was produced by thoroughly sincere men who had the best of intentions. The product, however, is grievous to my heart and helps to complicate matters in these already troubled times."

Logsdon moved to Largo, Florida, in his senior years and died there August 13, 1987. His widow, Beatty, subsequently moved to Wheaton, Illinois.

FRANK LOGSDON'S SPEECH

Two questions were handed me tonight which if I could answer them would take care of almost all the other questions:
  1. "Please tell us why we should use the Authorized Version and why the New American Standard is not a good version, and the background from which it came."
  2. "What is your opinion of the 1881, 1901 and other variations of the Bible in relation to the Authorized Version?"
May I point out to you very specifically, not that you do not know but to stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance, we are in the end time. And this end time is characterized by a falling away, and of course that is apostasy. That is the meaning of the word: Falling away from truth. And when there is a falling away from truth, concurrently there is always confusion because they are sort of Siamese twins.

With confusion there is mental and heart disturbance, and people naturally come short of the high standard of the Lord. Everything we have or ever will have will be found here [in the Bible], as we have said so many times. All that God does for us, in us, with us, through us, to us must come by the way of this Word. It's the only material the Spirit of God uses to produce life and to promote it. Name it, and it has to be here. So you can understand why the archenemy of God and man would want to do something to destroy this book.

I ought to whisper to you, and this is no compliment to the devil, but he knows it can't be destroyed. He tried to destroy the Living Word. You don't see this depicted on Christmas cards, but the night Jesus Christ was born the devil was there in that stable with one third of the fallen angels whom he had dragged down, to devour the man-child as soon as He was born (Revelation 12:5). Now he couldn't do it. Just think.

Satan was there when Jesus was born, with all of those cohorts, those fallen angels, for one purpose: to devour the man-child. He couldn't do it. So failing to abort the Saviorhood of Jesus Christ both at the manger and at the cross—when he said come down from the cross, that is, before your work is finished come down—he is going to do what he knows is the next most effective thing, that is try to destroy the Written Word.

You understand, I am sure, there are places in this book where you can't differentiate between the Living Word and the Written Word. You know that. John 14:6—"I am the life." John 6:63—"My words are life." Different life? The same life. You can't differentiate because after all the Written Word is the breath, if you please, of God, and Jesus Christ is God made flesh or the Word that came to earth.

THE DEVIL'S ATTACK ON THE BIBLE

Nevertheless, getting back to this, the devil is too wise to try to destroy the Bible. He knows he can't. He can't destroy the Word of God. But he can do a lot of things to try to supplant it, or to corrupt it in the minds and hearts of God's people. Now he can only do it in one of two ways: either by adding to the Scriptures or by subtracting from the Scriptures.

And you mark it down in your little red book: He's too wise to add to because those who have been in the Word for a long time would say, "Wait a minute; this is not in the Bible." So he subtracts from it. The deletions are absolutely frightening.

For instance, there are in the revisions (1881 and 1901), so we are told 5337 deletions, subtractions if you please. And here is the way it is done. It is done so subtly that very few would discover it. For instance, in the New American Standard we are told that 16 times the word "Christ" is gone.

When you are reading through you perhaps wouldn't miss many of them. Some you might. And 10 or 12 times the word "Lord" is gone. For instance, if you were in a church when the pastor is speaking on the words of the Lord Jesus in his temptation, "Get thee behind me, Satan," if you have a New American Standard you wouldn't even find it. It's not even in there. And there are so many such deletions.

So this is done in order to get around it and further blind the minds and hearts of people, even though it may be done conscientiously. There isn't any worse kind of error than to have conscientious error. If you are conscientiously wrong it's a terrible situation to be in. Nevertheless, when there is an omission that might be observed, they put in the margin, "Not in the oldest manuscripts." But they don't tell you what those oldest manuscripts are.

What oldest manuscripts? Or they say, "Not in the best manuscripts. "What are the best manuscripts? They don't tell you. You see how subtle that is? The average man sees a little note in the margin which says "not in the better manuscripts" and he takes for granted they are scholars and they must know, and then he goes on. That's how easily one can be deceived.

THE HISTORY OF THE CRITICAL GREEK TEXT

Let's go back to say 352 A.D., when Constantine, the Old Pagan Wolf, as he was called, was concerned because his kingdom was threatened with a schism. There were those who held to the Babylon doctrine of the mother and child coming up through history, and there were others who held to the Roman doctrine of mother and child. In order to cement his kingdom, he felt he ought to bring about a Bible that would satisfy both sides which were threatening to destroy his kingdom. So he called upon Eusebius. (There were two men of that period called by this name, but I am referring to Eusebius the historian.)

Who was Eusebius? He was a protege of Origin. And who was Origin? Origin was one who believed that Christ was a created being, like the Jehovah's Witnesses, therefore he's not divine. Now a man who studies under a teacher like that certainly would imbibe some of it. Nevertheless, Eusebius brought into being a Bible that would somehow or other not offend those who had the Babylonian doctrine or those who had the Roman doctrine of the mother and the child.

ROME IS THE CUSTODIAN OF THE CRITICAL TEXT

There are two copies of those Bibles in existence, A and B, the Codex Sinaiticus and the Codex Vaticanus. And where are they? They are in the custodial care of Rome. Now almost all of our revisions, of recent years in particular, come through that stream. And that necessitates this comment: There is the false and the true streams of manuscripts. And either our manuscripts come through the false stream, or they come through the approved stream of manuscripts.

When people speak of the oldest manuscripts, they usually mean the A and the B, the Codex Sinaiticus and the Codex Vaticanus. But nobody has seen [Vaticanus. It has] been under lock and key in Rome. And the only copies we have are the copies that Rome decided to give to the outside world, and I don't trust them one inch. Never, never, never! And I'll tell you why in just a moment. None of our scholars today have seen Codex B [Vaticanus], unless they've seen just a page or two through a glass case.

But that's not enough to get the feel of the whole thing, just to see a page that is open at one place. So here we have the stream of manuscripts and the stream of Greek texts coming down through the "custodial care" of Rome. And if it's in the custodial care of Rome, I don't want anything to do with it. I've come to this place now: I can't stand toe to toe with the scholars, with those who have delved into the manuscripts and textual criticism for years and years. I've had too many other things to do. And you haven't been able to, either.

So what do you do? I don't argue with them anymore. I'm not going to argue with any of them. I'm just going to ask, On what manuscript or manuscripts is this version based? And if it's based upon a manuscript that came down through this Roman stream, I don't want anything to do with it.

ERASMUS

You say, How can we know? Well, when God was ready to tell the world through a converted monk that the just shall live by faith, he raised up a man—and I'm sure that God raised him up; couldn't be otherwise—by the name of Erasmus. Erasmus is said by those who seem to know—
scholars, we have to take their word for something—that he was the wisest man this side of Solomon that ever lived. It was said that he could do ten days work in one day. Brilliant. I forgot how many languages he spoke; they say he was at home in eighteen or twenty different languages as easily as we can move around in the English language.

He knew the manuscripts that were available, and he brought about a Greek text. Now he was so brilliant that the pope offered him—that is to keep him, I suppose, from doing this Greek text—offered him the position of a cardinal, which is a high-ranking position for those in the Catholic Church. I know a little bit about it because my father's people were from Ireland and were Roman Catholic all the way back. I have three cousins in Chicago who are priests. I have a cousin in the Chicago area who is a nun. That was quite an offer to be offered the position of a cardinal, yet he refused it.

The British government, I am told, offered him one of the highest positions possible in the British commonwealth. And at his own price he turned it down. Germany did the same thing, but he turned it down because he felt God had called him to bring about the pure Greek text. All of this goes off into so many areas. We have a friend in one of our Baptist churches, very delightful chap, very educated, and he speaks against Erasmus because he had some attachment to the Roman church. Even our friend Peter Ruckman speaks against Erasmus. But how could you speak against a man, claiming that he is Roman, when he turned down the offer of a cardinalship and campaigned against monasticism, against the liturgy of the Catholic church, and was detested by the Catholic people?

And not only that, but listen to this: Do you know one of the reasons the Jesuits came into being under Loyola? Their main project was to supplant the Erasmus text, get it out of the way somehow, just undermine it. And this is their pledge. You can go to the library and get this directly, if you care. They said, `In order to supplant the Erasmus text we'll send our men to Protestant seminaries, Protestant Bible schools; we'll get them into teaching positions in seminaries; we'll get them into pulpits of churches.' To do what?

The whole aim around the world is to destroy the Erasmus text, and the Authorized Version of course came from the Erasmus text. Getting back to this one matter that really impresses me a great deal. When God was ready to tell the world that the just shall live by faith, he got hold of the heart of Luther and he tacked his thesis to the door—"the just shall live by faith"—and took all the persecution that comes to one who turns against the church of Rome.

If the just shall live by faith, where do we get faith? Romans 10:17, "Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God." If they're going to have pure faith they had to have the pure Word of God. Doesn't that make sense? And so God raised up Erasmus to bring about what was called the pure Greek text, and had it completed when Luther came thundering forth "the just shall live by faith. "He had the Greek text of Erasmus to translate. Someone put it this way: Erasmus laid the egg and Luther hatched it. Just at the right time he had the text, and all he had to do was to translate it into German.

I think I mentioned the other night, since there is so much concern about these versions and paraphrases and so on, it is a marvelous opportunity for the devil to get in his strokes, you know. Through computerized procedures they have tried to determine the accuracy right down the line. You have lists of those in various books.

The Authorized Version is right at the top. Friends, you can say the Authorized Version is absolutely correct. How correct? 100% correct! Because biblical correctness is predicated upon doctrinal accuracy, and not one enemy of this Book of God has ever proved a wrong doctrine in the Authorized Version. You've never heard of anyone's intellect being thwarted because he believed this Authorized Version, have you?

And you never will. You've never heard of anyone anytime going astray who embraced the precepts of the Authorized Version, and you never will.

I tell you, I used to laugh with others when a person would try to slander the intelligence, perhaps, of some who say, "Well, if the Authorized Version was good enough for Paul it's good enough for me. "You get a lot of ha, ha's. Say, that perhaps is true. If this is the Word of God, and Paul had the Word of God, then things equal to the same thing are equal to each other. We have the Book that Paul had! It's true there could be, and perhaps should be, some few corrections of words that are archaic. And a few places where it could read just a little more freely.

But after all, as I said to the men this morning in the class, just think of the countless millions of dollars of God's money spent on all these versions and translations which could have been spent on God's service. There are 100 of them right now. Think of it. When I say corrected, I mean just some of the archaic words such as "he who lets will let until he be taken out of the way." Now we don't use the word that way, but you can find out what it means by taking just a moment to look it up.

Back in Jeremiah 4:22 we read, "My people are sottish." There wouldn't be two people in the congregation that would know what that means. But I like it because when I looked it up, I found that it had more meaning than any other word you could put there. It means thick headed. God says, "I can't get through to you because you are thick headed. "And maybe He wants it to stay there. If a persons looks it up he gets a better understanding of it than if another word were put in there to change it. There are places where I believe the Spirit of God led the translators of the Authorized Version.

You read their biographies. They were mighty men of God; spent as much as five hours daily in prayer; and some of them knew twenty-some languages. And it was before modernism filled the air, and before their attention was diverted by so many other things, television and so on. Actually, after I've listened in so many places to all these arguments and I've listened to the scholars and sat with the translators, to be honest with you I haven't found anything seriously wrong anywhere with the Authorized Version. Really. Really!

Just a couple of archaic words that are not in usage today. Well, they could be changed. I personally don't think the "thous" and the "thees" should be changed. God's thoughts are above our thoughts, higher than our thoughts, and these words are expression of His thoughts, and I like to see it a little different here and there from men's ways and men's thoughts.

Actually I don't think there is anything wrong with this [the Authorized Version], and it has been tested for 362 years. Are you ready to throw it overboard because the scholars have come along and said, "Well now, this is better; reads better; you can understand it better"? I mean to tell you, with all their self-justification [of the new, easier to read versions], people know less and less about God's Word.

THE 1881 ENGLISH REVISED VERSION

To begin with, the revisers for the 1881 weren't to be revisers; they weren't to bring out a new Book. They were revisers to bring some of the words up to date because the language had changed. They were to be revisers, but the fact is—and believe me, this can't be refuted—there wasn't enough in the Authorized Version to revise to make it worth the while, to cater to the ego of scholars. So when they saw that there wasn't much to revise, here they had their committee arranged. One was a Unitarian, a man by the name of Smith.

That's why you find on verses concerning the incarnation there's something wrong. Such as 1st Timothy 3:16—"By common consent great is the mystery of godliness. "Don't you believe that the mystery of godliness depends upon what man thinks, or his opinion. The verse continues in the 1881 version—"he who was manifest in the flesh.

"You've been manifest in the flesh; I've been manifest; [that statement alone is meaningless]. It's God who was manifest in the flesh. Do you see the Unitarian flavor there? He got in some blows somewhere, and that must be one of them. But nevertheless, they didn't have enough to revise. So what are they going to do?

Well, two brilliant Cambridge scholars by the name of Dr. Hort and Dr. Westcott had been collaborating on a new Greek text built on the Codex Sinaiticus and the Codex Vaticanus which they believed were the very best manuscripts, held by Rome. So they said to the committee when they saw there wasn't enough to revise—I don't know if they said these exact words, but they said, "We would suggest that we bring about a new version. "And they had those men pledge themselves to secrecy that they wouldn't tell anybody about the text they were using until after the book was out.

Afraid, I guess, that they would be curbed, that the King of England or somebody would prevent them. Twice British royalty refused to have anything to do with the 1881 revision. But at any rate it was deception to begin with. Their own text hadn't even been published yet, hadn't stood the scrutiny of the public.

So the 1881 was built upon that. And the only fundamentalist who stayed on the board was Dr. F.H.A. Scrivener, and before he died he felt he had to break his promise to this group of men, and he let the world know that they took advantage after advantage in the text. That's where we've gotten the number of something like 5,337 deletions. [That was his count.] And he said, "Every time I raised an objection I was voted down, and they took liberties with God's Word. "He was right there at almost every meeting, and he revealed that to the world before he died.

[Our readers can read Scrivener's own words about this deception by ordering Scrivener's The Authorized Edition of the English Bible. A reprint of this is available from Bible for Today, 900 Park Avenue, Collingswood, New Jersey 08108. Order Item # 1757. Which Bible, edited by David Otis Fuller, also contains information about Scrivener and his protests against the ERV. Scrivener is listed 20 times in the index to that volume. Which Bible can also be obtained from Bible for Today.]

Now when the 1881 came out many people liked it because it said Jehovah instead of Lord in many places. Well, that's minor; you can say that with the Authorized Version. But it was scarcely 10 years before it proved to be a failure. That is, it didn't get anywhere.

THE 1901 AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION

Within 10 years they started communicating with spiritual leaders on this side of the water to work with them on another printing called the 1901 edition, feeling, I suppose, that if the Americans cooperated that they would have a wider sales range. Well, just think. When the 1901 came out it had gone 10 years when it was practically a failure, because in 1911 in the third centenary of the Authorized Version the publishers had 34 outstanding scholars to go over the Authorized Version and see what legitimate changes could be made here and there. 

You know, they took the 1901 edition and they could only take two out of every 100 corrections in that. Only two percent. And immediately they discovered that the 1901 was not trustworthy. And it didn't go very long until it died out. In all of my pastorates I can only remember one person who ever owned one of those 1901 American Standard Version Bibles.

THE NEW AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION

Back in 1956-57 Mr. F. Dewey Lockman of the Lockman Foundation contacted me. He was one of the dearest friends we've ever had for 25 years, a big man, some 300 pounds, snow white hair, one of the most terrific businessmen I have ever met. I always said he was like Nehemiah; he was building a wall. You couldn't get in his way when he had his mind on something; he went right to it; he couldn't be daunted.

I never saw anything like it; most unusual man. I spent weeks and weeks and weeks in their home, real close friends of the family. Well, he discovered that the copyright [on the American Standard Version of 1901] was just as loose as a fumbled ball on a football field. Nobody wanted it. The publishers didn't want it. It didn't get anywhere.

Mr. Lockman got in touch with me and said, "Would you and Ann come out and spend some weeks with us, and we'll work on a feasibility report; I can pick up the copyright to the 1901 if it seems advisable. "Well, up to that time I thought the Westcott and Hort was the text. You were intelligent if you believed the Westcott and Hort. Some of the finest people in the world believe in that Greek text, the finest leaders that we have today.

You'd be surprised; if I told you you wouldn't believe it. They haven't gone into it just as I hadn't gone into it; [they're] just taking it for granted. At any rate we went out and started on a feasibility report, and I encouraged him to go ahead with it. I'm afraid I'm in trouble with the Lord, because I encouraged him to go ahead with it. We laid the groundwork; I wrote the format; I helped to interview some of the translators; I sat with the translators; I wrote the preface. When you see the preface to the New American Standard, those are my words.

I got one of the fifty deluxe copies which were printed; mine was number seven, with a light blue cover. But it was rather big and I couldn't carry it with me, and I never really looked at it. I just took for granted that it was done as we started it, you know, until some of my friends across the country began to learn that I had some part in it and they started saying, "What about this; what about that?" Dr. David Otis Fuller in Grand Rapids [Michigan].

I've known him for 35 years, and he would say (he would call me Frank; I'd call him Duke), "Frank, what about this? You had a part in it; what about this; what about that?" And at first I thought, now, wait a minute; let's don't go overboard; let's don't be too critical. You know how you justify yourself the last minute. But I finally got to the place where I said, "Ann, I'm in trouble; I can't refute these arguments; it's wrong; it's terribly wrong; it's frightfully wrong; and what am I going to do about it?" Well, I went through some real soul searching for about four months, and I sat down and wrote one of the most difficult letters of my life, I think.

I wrote to my friend Dewey, and I said, "Dewey, I don't want to add to your problems," (he had lost his wife some three years before; I was there for the funeral; also a doctor had made a mistake in operating on a cataract and he had lost the sight of one eye and had to have an operation on the other one; he had a slight heart attack; had sugar diabetes; a man seventy- four years of age) "but I can no longer ignore these criticisms I am hearing and I can't refute them.

The only thing I can do—and dear Brother, I haven't a thing against you and I can witness at the judgment of Christ and before men wherever I go that you were 100% sincere," (he wasn't schooled in language or anything; he was just a business man; he had the money; he did it conscientiously; he wanted it absolutely right and he thought it was right; I guess nobody pointed out some of these things to him) "I must under God renounce every attachment to the New American Standard. "I have a copy of the letter.

I have his letter. I've shown it to some people. The Roberts saw it; Mike saw it. He stated that he was bowled over; he was shocked beyond words. He said that was putting it mildly, but he said, "I will write you in three weeks, and I still love you. To me you're going to be Franklin, my friend, throughout the course. "And he said, "I'll write you in three weeks." But he won't write me now. He was to be married. He sent an invitation to come to the reception.

Standing in the courtroom, in the county court by the desk, the clerk said, "What is your full name, Sir?" And he said, "Franklin Dewey." And that is the last word he spoke on this earth. So he was buried two days before he was supposed to be married, and he's with the Lord. And he loves the Lord. He knows different now.

I tell you, dear people, somebody is going to have to stand. If you must stand against everyone else, stand. Don't get obnoxious; don't argue. There's no sense in arguing. But nevertheless, that's where the New American stands in connection with the Authorized Version. I just jotted down what these versions, translations, and paraphrases are doing Consider:
  1. One, they cause widespread confusion, because everywhere we go people say, What do you think of this; what do you think of that? What do young people think when they hear all of that?
  2. Two, they discourage memorization. Who's going to memorize when each one has a different Bible, a different translation?
  3. Three, they obviate the use of a concordance. Where are you going to find a concordance for the Good News for Modern Man and all these others? You aren't going to find one. We're going to have a concordance for every one; you're going to have to have a lot of concordances.
  4. Four, they provide opportunity for perverting the truth. There are all these translations and versions, each one trying to get a little different slant from the others. They must make it different, because if it isn't different why have a new version? It makes a marvelous opportunity for the devil to slip in his perverting influence.
  5. Five, these many translations make teaching of the Bible difficult. And I'm finding that more and more as I go around the country. I mentioned this thing the other night. How could a mathematics professor or instructor teach a certain problem in a class if the class had six or eight different textbooks? How about that? How could you do it?
  6. Six, they elicit profitless argumentation. Because everywhere we go they say this one is more accurate. Which one is more accurate? How do they know? And this is not a reflection against those saying this, because I would have done this a few years ago.
Lest I forget, in one of these questions somebody said, "How can we know that we have the whole truth?" Well, just simply by believing God. And what do I mean by that? John 16:13—"When he the Spirit of Truth is come he will guide you into" how much? Tell me. Tell me, now. "All truth." And if we don't have all truth, the Holy Spirit isn't doing His work. We have to have all truth for Him to lead us into all truth.

And there are many, many other passages which teach this. If we could hear His voice we would have no trouble learning His Word from the Authorized Version. Let me tell you this: You might not be able to answer the arguments, and you won't be [able to]. I can't answer some of them, either. Some of these university professors come along and say, What about this; what about that? They go into areas that I haven't even had time to get into.

As I said to you a couple of minutes ago. You don't need to defend yourself, and you don't need to defend God's Word. Don't defend it; you don't need to defend it; you don't need to apologize for it. Just say, "Well, did this version or this translation come down through the Roman stream? If so, count me out. Whatever you say about Erasmus and Tyndale, that's what I want."

And besides this, we've had the AV for 362 years. It's been tested as no other piece of literature has ever been tested. Word by word; syllable by syllable. And think even until this moment no one has ever found any wrong doctrine in it, and that's the main thing. He that wills to do the will of God shall KNOW the doctrine.

Well, time is up. Let's be people of the Book. It took my mother to heaven; and my dad, my grandfather, my grandmother. It was Moody's Book; it was Livingstone's Book. J.C. Studd gave up his fortune to take this Book to Africa.

And I don't feel ashamed to carry it the rest of my journey. It's God's Book. "Our Father, we thank Thee and praise Thee for Thy Word. Help us to love it, and preach it, and teach it, and tell everybody we can the Good News through thy Word. In Jesus' name. Amen."

Monday, August 3, 2020

Abuse Of Power In Independent Baptist Churches

Matthew 15:7-9, “Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.” Psalms 109:4, “For my love they are my adversaries: but I give myself unto prayer.”

I am a caring, passionate, tender-hearted man. I have my faults, but indifference is not one of them. I have a difficult time living in a cold-hearted world, especially when professed Baptist Christians are indifferent toward truth, and don't care about the purity of God's Word, and don't care about others. I will never shut up about Harvest Baptist Church on Guam, because they profess to love God, but they don't love me as their neighbour. Romans 14:10, “But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.” 

Harvest Baptist Church operates like a cult, where only select members are allowed, and if you are not accepted by their leaders, you are ostracized. I have read much in the national news about abuse of power in the churches, but I never thought I would become a victim of it myself. I am a victim of church authority. I pleaded with Harvest's pastors for their help with my troubled life. I offered to humbly go along with whatever needed to be done to make peace with their church. Evidently they are scared, because I am more righteous than they are in this matter, yet I am socially weak, lacking fellowship with a local church.

I have been very lonely lately, so much wanting to be a part of church family where I can hopefully find a woman to marry. I heard Pastor Phil Kidd say that he has men coming to his church to find a wife, and he said that is okay. I fully agree. What better place to seek a wife or a husband than in a local church? Yet, Harvest refused my pleas for help. So I went to look at Bayview Church's website on Guam, just down the street from me. They used to be named the Bayview Baptist Church ten years ago, but they dropped the name “Baptist.” On their church website, they now show John Piper as one of their trusted theologians. John Piper is a hard core demonic Calvinist! If you think Calvinism is within accepted orthodox Christianity, you are deceived by the Devil. Calvinism is a road straight to Hell forever! So I cannot attend Bayview, because they are of the Devil, preaching a false gospel.

I looked at Calvary Chapel, but they teach Lordship Salvation and use the Devil's Bibles too. So there goes that. Harvest was my church for the year of 2014, but their pastors forced me out, and have refused to allow me to return, even though I humbly begged for their love and guidance with my life. They might as well have pushed me off a bridge or ran over me with a church bus. But they couldn't do the latter, because their neo-evangelical church doesn't run buses. They don't teach or go soulwinning. So I guess I am the greater fool for loving an unloving group of snobs who would rather push me away, than embrace me with God's love. Perhaps it means they do not have God's love at all. John 5:42, “But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.”

I have never asked anything from them, except to come back to church, but they refused. What does that say about them? It speaks volumes. It says they are phonies. It says they are selfish. It says they are wicked people who don't care about those who plead for their love and help. It shows an abuse of power in the church. God owns the church, not any group of people, or else it is a manmade cult and God's presence is not there. Acts 20:28 says God purchased the Church with His own blood. So if Harvest Baptist Church were a real Bible church, they couldn't shove me away and leave me alone, as they continue to do. As long as I live at 104 Second Street in Barrigada, I will never shut up. So if anyone wants to fly to Guam and assassinate me for upsetting you, now you know my address. I don't have a mailbox here, so don't waste your time mailing me anything. 

Any church that tells you to “Go elsewhere” is not right with God. I love them tremendously at Harvest. I am still very much in love with two women at Harvest Baptist Church. I fell in love with the nurse at Harvest in 2014. I saw her in 2017 and practically asked her to marry me. I wish with all my soul that she would have accepted me into her life. I still do love her. And then I feel very much in love with a woman that used to live in my neighborhood, who now only visits, but my feelings are equally as strong for her. I would marry either of them in a heartbeat and give my heart to her.

I felt bad being in love with two women. I had to go read online to see if it was even possible to love two people at the same time. Yes, it is absolutely possible to love two women at the same time. I don't even know if the nurse is there anymore, or if she has married. I just know she still has my heart. I lost 70 pounds for her. That is why I have never been able to forget about Harvest, because two women there have my heart. I have never felt so unwanted in all my life, as I have at Harvest Baptist Church on Guam, simply because I cared enough about them to tell them THE TRUTH. I tried to help them, as a friend does, showing them that Satan is behind the modern Bible tampering movement. Brother Lester Roloff (1914-1982) saw that the Devil was at work corrupting the Bible:
“The Word of God is our only hope—that's our only hope! This has been the generation of translations and abominations, and perversions, of the Word of God! It's been a long time; now when the Revised Standard Version came out, I stood against it before I knew what it was, because the wrong crowd heard of that, and the wrong crowd received it, and I knew it got too much publicity to be right! And I knew if the newspapers publicized something, it had to be wrong! And so I knew that the American people and a lot of American preachers—they welcomed it into their house before they knew it was a rattlesnake!” [emphasis added]—Brother Lester Roloff, a needful quote from the MP3 sermon titled, “'THE LIVING BIBLE' EXPOSED!”
I told THE TRUTH at Harvest Baptist Church, and they kicked me out! Where dwelleth the love of God? I also told THE TRUTH that Lordship Salvation is a perversion of God's grace. That is why the Apostle Paul was so upset with the churches of Galatia, because someone was messing with grace! And now, tragically, I found out this year that Dr. Steve Pettit and Bob Jones University have gone full-blown Lordship Salvation! Oh my God, what has happened to Bob Jones University and Harvest Baptist Church on Guam? 

For being a true friend, I was reprimanded, shamed, driven out of Harvest, shunned, ostracized and am now being permanently punished for TELLING THE TRUTH! God will avenge me (Romans 12:19). I pray daily for God to reward me and vindicate me of Harvest Baptist Church, for their abuse of church power to hurt a man who lovingly, sincerely and kindly befriended them with THE TRUTH!!! I contacted the church pastors at Harvest in 2017. I humbly offered to keep my views to myself, just so I could quietly attend church services. They refused and I haven't had a church family since. I've been attending a new small church, but I sincerely doubt if I'd ever find a wife there. This is all so frustrating, all because I DID THE RIGHT THING!

You know, Bob Jones University honored Brother Lester Roloff in the 1970's by giving him an honorary doctorates degree. Yet, BJU doesn't honor Brother Roloff's preaching of THE TRUTH. As I just quoted to you, Brother Roloff knew that “This has been the generation of translations and abominations, and perversions”! Yet, BJU uses, sells and bids Godspeed to those very perversions of God's Word. Why oh why? It is tragic that Christianity has deteriorated in America into a mere stinking business. I know what I am talking about. I know I am right. 

Pastor Jack Hyles (1926-2001) saw what the Devil was up to, corrupting the Word of God and changing the plan of salvation. So what is BJU's problem? What is Harvest Baptist Church's problem? Why am I hated so much by them? I have repeatedly promised to remove all my criticisms (to the best of my ability) from the internet, if Harvest would simply let me attend church services again. My promise still stands. But they have ignored me, so to Hell with them, I will continue to expose them. I am bold in this matter because I know as surely as I am saved that I am 100% right on the Bible and the Gospel. 


The Bob Jones' Crowd Are The Worst Of Perverts

You know, there has been a lot in the news in recent years about sexual abuse being covered-up in independent Baptist churches nationwide. But 10,000 times worse is the cover-up of the perversion of Lordship Salvation in thousands of churches. If a pastor sexually molests you, you'll be scared for life; but if a pastor preaches a perverted gospel to you, you'll burn in Hell for all eternity without rest day nor night (Revelation 14:11). The perverted Calvinist gospel of “turn from your sins” to be saved—which is being taught at Bob Jones University, Harvest Baptist Church, Moody Bible Institute, Unshackled, and thousands of corrupt neo-evangelical churches and religious organizations today—all sprouted from the corruptible seed of the Devil's modern Bible revisions!!!
“The worst pervert in America is the Gospel pervert!” —Brother Lester Roloff, from the sermon, “The Gospel Perverts Or Jesus?” 
The word “pervert” in this passage is the Greek word “metastrephō,” which means to “transmute; this is, change or alter in form, appearance, or nature.” Any time someone alters the nature of the Gospel, they have perverted it. Dr. Steve Pettit is the new president of Bob Jones University since 2014. I can almost hear the heavy breathing from their perverse pulpit at Bob Jones University! There is a cover-up in our independent Baptist churches and Bible colleges today, concerning the use of the Devil's Bible revisions which violate church members, pervert their common sense, and leave them spiritually scared in their souls, confused and wondering what happened.

There is also a cover-up by abusive pastors, such as the Harvest Baptist Church on Guam, concerning the preaching of a perverted gospel. I didn't say that, the Apostle Paul did in Galatians 1:6-7, “I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.” Notice that it is really not another gospel. There is only one Gospel, defined by Paul in 1st Corinthians 15:1-4. Harvest Baptist Church troubles the island of Guam with their perverse gospel of Lordship Salvation. 

On their KHMG 88.1 FM radio station, Harvest Baptist Church broadcasts the Unshackled program by Pacific Garden Mission, which teaches hardcore perverted grace! Harvest also broadcasts 'The Daily Platform' (BJU chapel services) in which Dr. Steve Pettit preaches hardcore perverted grace. These people are Gospel PERVERTS!!! It is an abuse of pastoral leadership. The only true “authority” (power) in any church is the inspired Word of God. So when men in positions of church leadership assert their own manmade teachings (aka, Lordship Salvation) over the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, and ostracize people they don't like who tell THE TRUTH, they are abusing their position of trust in the local New Testament church.


Just Like At BJU, The Bob Jones' Crowd On Guam Turn A Deaf Ear Toward Abuse

And when ungodly pastors, like at Harvest Baptist Church on Guam, promote and bid Godspeed to the blatantly corrupted Bible revisions tampered with by liberals and infidels like Brooke Westcott, Fenton Hort and Rudolf Kittel, they are bigger perverts than Albert Einstein (you read right!). The genius professor couldn't keep his pants on!!! There is no pervert like the Bible corrupting pervert!!! There is no pervert like the Gospel pervert!!! There are no perverts like the Harvest Baptist Church on Guam, who fornicate in spiritual whoredom with theological pervs like Steve Pettit, John MacArthur, Sam Horn, Marty Herron and Ray Comfort, to name but a few, who all share the same big spiritual waterbed together!

If you see something say something! If you see your local pastor using and promoting perverted Bible revisions, call him out on it! If you hear your pastor talking perverted, teaching perverse Lordship Salvation, you need to confront him and tell him to stop being a pervert! If you don't say anything, then you are a part of the problem, bidding Godspeed to evildoers and church members will continue to be theologically molested because you didn't SAY SOMETHING!!! When pastors remain silent, while Satan sneaks his corrupt Bible revisions into the churches, they are abusing their trusted leadership position. If you see something pastors, you have a sacred duty to say something, not cover it up. 

I went to the Pastors of Harvest because is saw perversion in the church. I saw the Devil's Bibles corrupting the church, perverting the meaning of repentance and the plan of salvation itself. I saw something and I humbly spoke up, but the leadership at Harvest Baptist Church tried to silence me. They blamed me, and I was made to be the bad guy, forced out of my church family. I begged them for mercy, but they shoved gravel in my mouth! They knew I was alone in their neighborhood, and without a church to attend, but they looked the other way to cover it up, like I didn't exist anymore. That is why I believe most of their former shameful pastors quit and left, leaving a mess on Guam, because they KNEW in their hearts that I am 100% right in my stand for THE TRUTH! But the new pastors are no better than the old pastors, still covering up for bad pastors, still burying THE TRUTH, still blaming the victim of their abuse of leadership!

Just like BJU's leadership, who terminated some students for daring to report being raped; Likewise, Harvest Baptist Church on Guam has banned, shunned and ostracized me for the past 5 years. It has been painful to my soul, only God knows the hurt and sorrow they've caused. I reported the theological abuse I saw, and was punished for mentioning it, and there is a spirit of cover-up at the shameful Harvest Baptist Church of Guam today. I love them all so dearly, but they won't give me a second chance. I just need a lifeline from their church, an Olive Branch of peace, if they would like to make peace with a hurting man who asked for their help, and is in love with two ladies in their church, whom I care about. It seems that at Harvest Baptist Church on Guam, it is prohibited to be in love with someone, unless their pastors approve, playing God with people's lives.

Since I don't have a church family where I can find a wife, and I am being made to feel like I did something wrong to tell THE TRUTH, it compels me to preach, preach, preach! And by God's grace that is what I intended to keep doing, in every way I can possible figure out a way to so do to spread the message of THE TRUTH. Harvest's new senior minister, Pastor Gary Walton, is clearly a big supporter of BJU and Unshackled (because the church promotes them), which means he is okay with their Lordship Salvation crap, and multiple Bible revisions that they use, sell and promote. So what does that say about him as a religious leader?


Me Too! I Am A Victim Too!

Numerous students have come forward with allegations about being sexually abused at BJU by other students, but the college actually blamed the students! One BJU counselor told the rape victim that it was her fault, for thinking about the impure thoughts from what had happened to her (the rape) in the past. I'm not kidding, read the horrifying story for yourself! As I read that story, and there are many more online, I too felt violated by the Harvest Baptist Church on Guam. I went to their pastors with a kind and loving heart, pleading for their help spiritually with my broken life. Instead of being a friend, like I was to them, they shunned me away and forgot about me, moving on like nothing happened.

Kindly said, I am a Baptist, and they are Baptists. That is where I belong on Guam, in the local Baptist church! I am not the problem, they are! I am willing to quietly attend church, but they won't let me come back. Like the rape victims at BJU, I am being blamed and ostracized for doing the right thing, telling THE TRUTH, but nobody cares at Harvest.

I humbly said in 2017 (and I have the emails to prove it) that I would be fully cooperative with their pastors and not cause any trouble for the church whatsoever. But they blamed me instead, shunning and ostracizing me. My neighbours across the street on both sides won't even wave at me. The woman I fell in love with hasn't waved at me in over a year, because her pastors have told her not to. That is what a secretive worldly cult does! In God's family, EVERYBODY MATTERS! In God's family, EVERYBODY IS IMPORTANT!!! I wish Harvest Baptist Church would repent and welcome me back in love, but they won't, still after five lonely years of pain and misery. All I want is to love them, but for my love they hate me. Psalms 109:4-5, “For my love they are my adversaries: but I give myself unto prayer. And they have rewarded me evil for good, and hatred for my love.”

All I ever wanted and asked for in the kindest of words, was to please let me attend church services. Doesn't everybody need Bible preaching? Doesn't everybody have a right to sit in the house of God on Sunday, who behaves them self in church, takes a bath before going to church, and is friendly toward others at church? I am the nicest person. So why am I not permitted to attend church? It is just as abusive as sexual abusive as far as I'm concerned! When hurting people are blamed, victimized all over again, something is very wrong with church or Bible college leadership! There is indeed a bunch of abuse going on in our Baptist churches today, and it's not just sexual abuse, I have been emotionally abused by Harvest Baptist Church on Guam.

I sure pray and hope someday they'll email me, or stop by to say hi, and we can barbecue some steaks. I always have steaks on hand and the grill ready to go. I love them (not the steaks, my neighbors...lol). This ongoing fuss between me and Harvest's pastors is on them, because I am here and ready to make peace. I just want a church family. The abusive pastors at Harvest have created this situation, by being incompetent, and hiding like little boys from a problem that they started in the first place, playing God with people's lives, deciding who stays and who leaves, and who can return. 

You know, when I lived in Chicago, where I was born and raised, I visited the Armitage Baptist Church ONE TIME! They were using the NIV (New International Version). For that reason alone I didn't ever go back. For the next ten years they tried to get me to come back! They sent welcome cards to my address for the next ten years! Even though I never went back, they won a place in my heart, so that unto this day the Armitage Baptist Church has a special place in my heart. Harvest Baptist Church needs to learn that! Their nurse at Harvest Baptist Church in 2014 followed me around, waited in the parking lot for me when I came to church, and made it clear that she liked me. I was an idiot and didn't figure it out, but I realized after their pastors had forced me out, that I had fallen in love with her, because just like the Armitage Baptist Church in Chicago, she kept at my heart and won it!

I can hear Pastor Marty Herron now: “I AM A GOD!!!” He won't admit to that, but he sure acts like it, kicking people out the door and not letting them come back to church. I am not saying that he is God, because God gives people second chances (Jonah 3:1), but not Harvest. They take the place of God, playing God with people's lives. They abused me at Harvest, horribly so. When they someday get a genuine man of God as a pastor, they will contact me, as I did them, to make peace in this matter. There are no second chances at Harvest Baptist Church on Guam. If you are not accepted into their elite social club, you are a nobody to them!

We'll I'm still here! I haven't seen any effort on their part to make peace. What does that say? It certainly shows that I am the better Christian in the matter, since I am the peacemaker! I love you all with God's unconditional love. Jesus is precious!

I Feel Like This Dead Horse, A Victim Of Abuse At Harvest Baptist Church

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